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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[Oops, sorry about this - I accidently double posted, and can't delete now someone's replied. Oh dear. Sad]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
dauodwa wrote:

Andrew, if you dont like it, then geeeeeeeeettttt out!!!

The enjoyable aspects far outweigh the unenjoyable ones. It would be a big improvement without any smoke though. (Not to mention that at least half the people smoking there were under the legal age.)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i think taht you can get nicotine free cigs. and mondine, keep in mind that the tabacco is the main factor that makes you "ill".

PS how do you do multiple quotes (like zima)??? Confused


My point was, that of the components of tobacco, the ingredients other than nicotine, such as tar, cause most illnesses.

Reducing the nicotine would increase the harmful effect, if you had to smoke more, to get the same effect.
'Light' cigarettes (lower in nicotine) exist, for those that are trying to cut down, and quit. However, this often leads to people just smoking (and buying) more.

Tobacco substitutes like cloves, are made into cigarettes. They're of little benefit, except to maybe give ex-smokers something to do with their hands.

(As for quoting, the easiest thing to do is open reply windows and copy the formatted text to past into your message. You should be able to do multiples by using the forward and back buttons of your browser.)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mondine wrote:
dauodwa wrote:

i think taht you can get nicotine free cigs. and mondine, keep in mind that the tabacco is the main factor that makes you "ill".

PS how do you do multiple quotes (like zima)??? Confused


My point was, that of the components of tobacco, the ingredients other than nicotine, such as tar, cause most illnesses.

Reducing the nicotine would increase the harmful effect, if you had to smoke more, to get the same effect.
'Light' cigarettes (lower in nicotine) exist, for those that are trying to cut down, and quit. However, this often leads to people just smoking (and buying) more.

Tobacco substitutes like cloves, are made into cigarettes. They're of little benefit, except to maybe give ex-smokers something to do with their hands.

(As for quoting, the easiest thing to do is open reply windows and copy the formatted text to past into your message. You should be able to do multiples by using the forward and back buttons of your browser.)


yes i did see your point mondine. there are many harmfull things in cigirettes. i wouldnt support an overall ban as it would deteramnet the world economies quite substancially. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Smoking in public..... Reply with quote
This whole smokoing in public is REEEAAALLLLYYY pissing me off!  I'm a long time smoker, but I consider myself as a considerate smoker. I totally understand and respect if someone doesn't want to inhale my smoke, and I make sure that when I do go outside for a ciggie during my break,it doesn't effect anyone, but to prohibit smoking outside is just ridiculous. In Chicago , cops are going around handing out $50 tickets for smoking  even if it's in a discreet , far from anyone ,place. Do they have ANYTHING better to do????  Now really!!!   You'd think that the issue of inhaling bus fumes or the block long of taxi's with their engines running, polluting the air would get some air time also....While on the subject of gross behavior, what about all the morons that  bring up from their deepest bowels, a huge slimy hocker and spit it out on the sidewalk. Yea, like stepping in some disease ridden DNA is ok????
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the UK they're trying to get people to quit smoking, BUT some high up government members own Cig. companies! It's a bit stupid trying to get everyone to quit smoking if some government members are encouraging it!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Smoking in public..... Reply with quote
heysaylor wrote:
block long of taxi's with their engines running, polluting the air would get some air time also....

Glasgow City Council (I think it's just them, not the Scottish Executive) have tried to tackle this problem. £20 on the spot fine for sitting in a car idling at the edge of a road. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In Boulder, Colorado, there is a ban on smoking in all public places. The Denver city council was considering this about the time I moved. Here in Washington DC, where I now live, the city council passed a law that will go into effect on 1/1/07 banning smoking in all restaurants and bars, with the exception of smoking bars.
 
I'm a nonsmoker, so it really doesn't matter to me, but my friends are all smokers, and a lot of folks are up in arms about this. As far as I am concerned, if I don't like the smell of smoke (and I don't), I can go elesewhere else. Usually, if my friends light up in my presence, I'll ask them if they don't mind holding off on the cig for a bit. They usually don't mind.
 
What gets to me is the legislation being discussed, and sure to pass here in DC, that would make cigarette papers illegal. The reason for this is that many folks use papers to roll joints instead of cigarettes. They're looking at making cigar papers illegal too, as lots of folks smoke blunts. In fact, the "paraphrenalia (sp?) ban" includes lots of things that are innocuous, but have been used to facilitate drug use. I don't agree because there are people who still roll their own cigarettes and cigars. Heck, with a pack of squares going for $6 a pack here, it's no wonder if people are rolling their own! Who knows, people may actually be using that other "paraphrenalia" for its original, intended use, which has nothing to do with drugs.
 
Don't get me wrong, I am not referring to items made expressly for drug use. Those items should be made illegal. I just don't think its right to include items for legal stuff in the sweep. That is, unless the city council intends to make cigarettes, steel wool, tweezers, and razors, among other things, illegal. Of course, Washington, DC, like many other places, has so many incidents of violent crimes related to drugs and drug use, that the hotter heads will prevail, I'm sure.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi,
Here in sweden it has been if not the law, then the rule that in work-places you go to either a smoke-room or outside.. it has been prohibeted to smoke in public places for a long time but only resent has there been a law against smooking in bars and resturants. I am a smoker who does not want to stop smoking! However I have no problems whats so ever that there is a limit to where I can smoke! I should not force anybody to endure my smoking anywhere! Also, is there anything worse than coming into a traincompartment where people have been smoking? Another point is also the children... A child has got no chance to avoid getting harmed by the smoke! Atleast adults can leave the room, but the child has to stay as long as the parent is there! I think that people should be allowed to smoke if they want to, but they should consider where they smoke! By the way we have a law that say you can't sell tobaco in any form to people under 18! I also think this is good, it should not be easy for children to start smoking in the first place!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, there hasn't exactly been a ban on smoking in India (anywhere; public or private), but if there was, I'd support it. I mean, when people know that smoking can harm their health, I can't understand why they don't stop it. It becomes an obsession, I suppose. I hate to see anyone smoking in public - its harmful to everyone around them as well.

This is a bit like what the government here recently did. The police regularly raid bars to arrest people who are drunk in public ( its called "public drunkenness", or soemthing like that). I wish the same would be done for "public smoking".
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I support the smoking ban. Here in NY its a state wide law not to smoke in public places period. I hated it when I would leave the malls and I get a huge puff of smoke in my face and the guy smoking doesnt even say sorry. At the college I attended students were allowed to smoke anywhere outside but then last year they made only certain spots outside smoking areas which was a great idea in my view.

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