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 Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: Spam Bots For Humanity |
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IS there not a sensible way to go against spam using the bots.
I mean most of all the SPAM I get is usually the same, coming from emails that normally no person would ever use.
You could block the IP
Something,
Help me out here.....
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IamTheKing9
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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You could try and create a filter that puts all the e-mails from a particular e-mail address into the Trash or Deleted Items. But other than that, I can see no other alternative. Except if you want to tell Google about this and request them to stop all e-mails from a particular e-mail address, which is rather unlikely.
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penboy
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: penboy.com |
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But if SPAMing is illegal, then anyone that does should automatically be blocked.
But I see what you mean that any mail from anywhere could be anything, therefore hard to stop.
But if a bot got good enough through multiple training on standard
formats then it could as a human know if it were spam or not by the
title or by the content.
or?....
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: |
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It's not that easy to stop spam ! In fact Google's spam engine is pretty good in this job.
You can't block an IP, neither an address because a spammer is always changing is address and ip obviously.
SPAM filter are based on mathematical statistics. Most of them learn from a bunch of mails (like a thousand of spam mails and a thousand of normal mails) and build arrays of the word present in those mails to finally build a big hash table that says (using mathematical formulas) : "This word in x% of the cases is in a spam mail". When a new mail arrives, it calculate a score which is the probability that the mail is a spam and react accordingly.
Then the important is to train the engine saying "This is a spam" when it didn't recognised one, and the contrary when it put a regular mail in your spam folder.
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: SpaM |
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Yeah Right, know googles is pretty, good but thats why I was thinking that there must be a way for a google bot to attach all those sites or the same ads (like the enlargement and viagra stuff), within the text of the mail. know what I mean.
But I see what you mean as well that sometimes I might send something like this to a mate just for a laugh.
Maybe we just have to gang up on the Sp@m€rz, and spam them back.
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: SpaM |
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| penboy wrote: | | Maybe we just have to gang up on the Sp@m€rz, and spam them back. |
Yeah that's what we should do ... If only we could catch them up ! That's what some companies use to do when they were spammed by fax : sending back always the same "f--- off" (or whatever it said) written in white on a black background so it didn't cost anything to the company but to the spammer ... Sad that we can't do anything like that with mails ...
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penboy
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: SpAm |
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I know.
It has to be these companies that say you can earn 800+ per week from
your own home. Just register and find out and then if it turns out that
that is what the company does then go against them.
Have you seen the long emails that say "send this to 10 of your frinds
and you will win a prize", or the CD's you can buy with 1 million
emails, and stuff like that.
This is what I am saying, google bots will be able to find all of
these people on the net simply by looking for threads that are
common.
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I set up a Rule to block all e-mails from Bebo and all that junk - Its annoying! - And on top of that i set up rules to filter out all spam - If gmails spam filter isnt good enough for you :p
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: 1.2.3 |
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Wouldn't it then be possible for all those spam lists that are already there just to be updated by SPAMbots.
Or better yet, all email addresses could be like in a George Orwell type of fashion be pinned to actual people and not fake IP's and silly nicknames.
Isn't there a way to make the Internet a more beautiful world?
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Filter out everything from people you don't have.
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: Friends......? |
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Thats the only problem, I run a business through my website and through the net. So that I gotta go through the junk to find buyers. And most of them say 'just a question' or you know the typical one lines that spammers use.... So it is kind of hard to block everyone....
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Tell people to use a specific line when emailing you and don't block ones with that phrase
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: true |
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Yeah true that would work,
But in the same way cant the SPAMbots pick out the same strings in emails that follow to the same websites being spammed...?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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No, spambots don't work that way.
Mainly, they just scan pages, and look for an identifiable mail address.
They look for the form name@domain.whatever.
Some very more sophisticated ones will look for, and filter some common (and not very effective) spam measures,
like including "nospam" or another common phrase in the address.
But if the instruction appears in a different sentence to 'include this phase in the subject line, to mail',
A bot will not be able to pick that up.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I know what you mean,
But quite often the sites that are being advertised would appear in the content of the mail, and therefore could be picked up.
Most often the mails are also sent to the same provider just with different mails.
Would it be allowable to track them (big brother style), by putting tags within the email?
I mean good old Gates must have worked this out many a times....
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