pages not indexed anymore - help

kreole · 06-01-2006, 09:19 AM

Hi, some of our pages that used to be indexed don't show up in google results anymore. We've recently started using URL-rewriting, could that be a problem?
For example url's like these don't show up anymore:
http://www.flexx.be/items.php?id=mb004)
and those are the most important ones for us.

any help woudl be great

thanks!

jcorkern · 06-01-2006, 05:18 PM

Put a 301 redirect from the old file to the new one and you will be fine!

kreole · 06-02-2006, 10:35 AM

thanks but both URL's point to the same file, so i guess that can't be it?

I remember that when we switched to clean urls/rewites google did index them at first but they gradually didn't turn up in the results anymore.

i can't figure it out..

jcorkern · 06-02-2006, 10:52 AM

Your old url is more than likely still in the serps unless you dumped the file from your server. If you use the search engine and type in your search phrase for the ranking page, the original page is probably still in the serps and your new file is not because it has not been assigned PR and will not be assigned PR untill the next update! therefore the new url will not get position, There is a difference between ranking in the serps and being indexed!

This is why I said a 301 redirect. That way you get your old traffic from the file that has search placement compared to the new file, this will also pass the old files PR to the new file!

The new files will not have search position UNTIL the new update!

You have to remember. The spiders do not think, they are a program and do as they are programed. they see completely different pages because of the file names! You have to tell them the difference.

Test and see, type your keyword or phrase in a search bar and the old files show up and the new ones do not.
This is the purpose of the redirect. A 301 redirect is a redirect for a move and this lets the spider know that this is the new file taking the place of the old file!

Jim Corkern
SEO

arpecop · 06-05-2006, 11:02 AM

your new url is better than old one ... just remove desired one with robots.txt

kreole · 06-08-2006, 12:24 AM

i did a 301 redirect to the pages but somehow i still think something else is going on.
When i do a search neither the old page or the new one shows up.
example:
http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&sa...G=Search&meta=

it's always our homepage that shows up while it should be
http://www.flexx.be/item/pl1005

could it page that the page has been penalized by google? Or would our complete website be scrpped from the index then?

thanks for your help

penney · 06-13-2006, 02:36 AM

HibrHow can I do this modification too?brDo you need to insert a line in httaccess?brbrThanks for the helpbr

06-01-2006, 09:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
kreole Noogle Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	pages not indexed anymore - help Hi, some of our pages that used to be indexed don't show up in google results anymore. We've recently started using URL-rewriting, could that be a problem? For example url's like these don't show up anymore: http://www.flexx.be/items.php?id=mb004) and those are the most important ones for us. any help woudl be great thanks!

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06-01-2006, 05:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
jcorkern Googler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: texas Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Put a 301 redirect from the old file to the new one and you will be fine!

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kreole Noogle Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks but both URL's point to the same file, so i guess that can't be it? I remember that when we switched to clean urls/rewites google did index them at first but they gradually didn't turn up in the results anymore. i can't figure it out..

06-02-2006, 10:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
jcorkern Googler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: texas Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Your old url is more than likely still in the serps unless you dumped the file from your server. If you use the search engine and type in your search phrase for the ranking page, the original page is probably still in the serps and your new file is not because it has not been assigned PR and will not be assigned PR untill the next update! therefore the new url will not get position, There is a difference between ranking in the serps and being indexed! This is why I said a 301 redirect. That way you get your old traffic from the file that has search placement compared to the new file, this will also pass the old files PR to the new file! The new files will not have search position UNTIL the new update! You have to remember. The spiders do not think, they are a program and do as they are programed. they see completely different pages because of the file names! You have to tell them the difference. Test and see, type your keyword or phrase in a search bar and the old files show up and the new ones do not. This is the purpose of the redirect. A 301 redirect is a redirect for a move and this lets the spider know that this is the new file taking the place of the old file! Jim Corkern SEO

06-05-2006, 11:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
arpecop Junior Googler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	your new url is better than old one ... just remove desired one with robots.txt

06-08-2006, 12:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
kreole Noogle Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i did a 301 redirect to the pages but somehow i still think something else is going on. When i do a search neither the old page or the new one shows up. example: http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&sa...G=Search&meta= it's always our homepage that shows up while it should be http://www.flexx.be/item/pl1005 could it page that the page has been penalized by google? Or would our complete website be scrpped from the index then? thanks for your help

06-13-2006, 02:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
penney Noogle Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HibrHow can I do this modification too?brDo you need to insert a line in httaccess?brbrThanks for the helpbr

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