Need help with choosing a computer...

[Lunarja]

So I need new computer and I have two options, so I need Your opinion.

First
Processor Intel Pentium 4 640 (3,2GHz, 64bit, s.775), motherboard Gigabyte GA-8I915PL-G, Intel 915PL chip, memory 2x512MB Apacer CL2,5 DDR 400Mhz DualDDR, hard disc 160GB Serial ATA II 7200rpm 8MB, video card 256MB ATI Radeon X700 TV-out DVI, 16x DVD +/- Dual Layer writer, 10/100/1000Mbps, sound card, USB.

Second:
Fujitsu Siemens SCALEO P
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3400+, memory 1024MB DDR, , hard dick 200GB 7200rpm, 256MB video card ATI Radeon X550HM DVI, 16x DVD +/- Dual Layer , 10/100Mbps , modem, sound card + SPDIF, 6xUSB, TV-out

And I couldn't find motherboard information

I really need your opinion

[puppynut5]

I would go with the second because it has the AMD-64 which is much better than the Intel. Even if the intel has a higher processor speed the AMD will out perform it. Also how much are you paying for those? I've designed computers that would kick the crap out of those two for $1500 or less (they don't have a monitor) but all it takes is a little bit of knowledge in putting them together.

[Lunarja]

About $900
And thank you for you opinion

[puppynut5]

Yep for 900 I'd definately say the second one with the AMD 64 much more bang for your buck. (Especially if you get WindowsXP 64 Bit edition or if you get Windows vista when it releases)

[exartizo]

I'd like to help you but I need to know what you will be using the computer for first.

gaming?

communications?

internet?

high end graphics?

storage of voice/data/video?

[puppynut5]

It doesn't matter what he's going to be doing with it. Either way the second one is configured better and more powerful. If the prices are comparable between the two you might as well go for the second one. Look carefully at the specs, the second one has the more powerful AMD. 1 Gig of RAM instead of just 512. 200 Gig HD instead of 160....The list goes on.

[dauodwa]

Fistly, pentium 4 is 32 bit, at least most of them. Amd is mucjh better in my opinion, but thats probably caue i have one. thichever one you get, upgrade the harddrive and make sure that you get a good decent video card. I would get the seconf one, or the first one with a better video card and upgraded ram, (1000megabytes). Personally, in have a reasonable compurter, but am saving up to buy a laptop. Im gonna wait till next year, when i can get the same thing for a much cheaper price!

[exartizo]

As many people know, bigger isn't always better.

That may also be the case in this situation.

And YES I DO need to know what you will be doing with the machine.

First:

AMD chips STILL run hotter than comparable Intel chips so you'll need to make sure you have adequate cooling. I'm assuming that these machines are not "off the shelf". For gaming, AMD is the clear choice.

Second:

Just because it has a larger hard drive doesn't mean its better. That's like saying a six cylinder engine delivers more horsepower than a four cylinder engine.

That may be the case, but not necessarily. You need to know the specs on the engines.

And its definitely NOT TRUE in this case.

As you know, an SATA drive has a faster bus speed than comparable IDE drives. So the first machine with the SATA drive may be a better fit in terms of the hard drives.

A 40 GB difference in drive size may not be a big deal if you'd like a drive with a little quicker access time.

Also, All "RAM" is not the same. You will need to consider the specs to determine how quick it is.

Brand names are important in picking memory because "All memory is not created equal". (I'm a Crucial fan personally).

You did not include the memory specs on the second machine. Usually when you write "2x 512 mb" that means to me that you've got 1 GB also. Is that true? Does the first Intel machine have 1 GB memory also? I'm unclear about that.

Given my question above, the memory in the first machine could be two 512 mb chips. if this is correct. Then the memory in the first machine will be faster than the memory in the second machine because DDR memory requires two chips on a Gigabyte board to run in "dual channel" mode.

A dual channel configuration as implicated in the first Intel machine should run faster than a comparable single channel configuration such as is stated for the AMD machine.

The chip CL is missing for the AMD machine. This information will impact the speed of the memory in the AMD machine.

You need to accurately understand the differences in the specs of the products to be able to discuss them knowledgeably.

I'd like to see the specs on the motherboard for the second machine when you can find them.

AGAIN.. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO USE THE MACHINE FOR!

[Lunarja]

Oh...Now I'm going to use it all-most everything but I don't play computer games and I must be able to do photo graphics (I hope this is the word) and a elementary video composing (I couldn't find righter word)

You did not include the memory specs on the second machine. Usually when you write "2x 512 MB" that means to me that you've got 1 GB also. Is that true? Does the first Intel machine have 1 GB memory also? I'm unclear about that.

Yes it's true, It also have 1 GB memory

I'd like to see the specs on the motherboard for the second machine when you can find them.

You aren't the only one, I call them and they just say that they don't know, and the person who knows is in vacation but he will arrive 17. march.
But somebody told that motherboard is ASUS A8NE-FM, but I don' know how trustworthy this information is.
Now I can give you the second computer URL but I don't know how much you understand my language.
LINK!

Sorry about my very bad English

[superbeowulf]

that link you posted, i visited that link.
what language is that anyway? i was just curious.