Gmail, some bulgarian servers and SPAM

asen · 05-02-2006, 12:34 PM

Hi!

I use Win XP; Thunderbirth (last version) and Gmail for my POP3 mail. I
just noticed that when I send some messages from my other POP3 accounts
( http://www.spnet.net and www.pillax.com) to some other Gmail address Google
Mail server sends them to the SPAM folder. This is weird!

Could anybody please advise me what could be the reason and how to solve this?

Thanks!

mondine · 05-02-2006, 01:05 PM

I can only assume that the Google mail filters have seen a lot of spam from those servers, and have 'flagged' everything originating from them.
I don't know if there's a lot you can do about that.
In the case of people with whom you regularly correspond, you can advise them of the situation, so that they can 'train' their own filter,
(look for the message, and mark it as "not spam"), but I can't think of anything else.

At least Gmail gives that opportunity. Even though my ISP (Shaw Cablesystems) is one of the largest providers in Canada,
it's been blacklisted in a number of places (often due to malicious use of unsecured servers).
There are some friends of mine that I can't contact using that account at all, as mail is routinely bounced.

asen · 05-02-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mondine

I can only assume that the Google mail filters have seen a lot of spam from those servers, and have 'flagged' everything originating from them.
I don't know if there's a lot you can do about that.
In the case of people with whom you regularly correspond, you can advise them of the situation, so that they can 'train' their own filter,
(look for the message, and mark it as "not spam"), but I can't think of anything else.

At least Gmail gives that opportunity. Even though my ISP (Shaw Cablesystems) is one of the largest providers in Canada,
it's been blacklisted in a number of places (often due to malicious use of unsecured servers).
There are some friends of mine that I can't contact using that account at all, as mail is routinely bounced.

Well, manually changing the mail to "Not SPAM" will not help and this is not a permanent solution since:
1. the recipient has to manually log to gmail
2. next messages from me are also filtered as SPAM.

Seting a Filter will not help, it looks, since there is no option to move a particular recipient to the INBOX.

I hope, some day Google guys will remove that servers from the black list. IS that possible at all?

I just wonder might that be due to some Thunderbird settings too?

asen · 05-02-2006, 09:26 PM

Is that also possible to somehow set Thunderbird or Outlook Express to receive the mai from the Gmail's SPAM folder?br
br
Sounds crazy but that's an option too, isn't it?br

IamTheKing9 · 05-02-2006, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asen

Well, manually changing the mail to "Not SPAM" will not help and this is not a permanent solution since:
1. the recipient has to manually log to gmail
2. next messages from me are also filtered as SPAM.

Eh? You sure? I never knew that. I thought thgat marking it as Not Spam for a few times would do the trick. Thanks, anyway.

asen · 05-02-2006, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamTheKing9

Quote:

Originally Posted by asen

Well, manually changing the mail to "Not SPAM" will not help and this is not a permanent solution since:
1. the recipient has to manually log to gmail
2. next messages from me are also filtered as SPAM.

Eh? You sure? I never knew that. I thought that marking it as Not Spam for a few times would do the trick. Thanks, anyway.

Well, since last two days I've sent lots of test messages from the blacklisted servers to Gmail. Each time I manually set the message as "Not a SPAM" and the google mail server didn't train to recognize those as "NOT SPAM", unfortunately.

I go on testing...

Any suggestions are welcome.

IamTheKing9 · 05-02-2006, 10:40 PM

Oh well. Maybe you could suggest it to Google through Gmail's Help Centre.

asen · 05-02-2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamTheKing9

Oh well. Maybe you could suggest it to Google through Gmail's Help Centre.

I will...

Is there any use to try to do something further or it's strictly a Google server issue?

IamTheKing9 · 05-02-2006, 10:46 PM

Good question. Unfortunately, I've no idea. But you'll get your answer if you ask Google. Try it.

asen · 05-02-2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamTheKing9

Good question. Unfortunately, I've no idea. But you'll get your answer if you ask Google. Try it.

Well, if this is the only solution by now, I feel it's not sufficient:
Gmail Help FAQ

Is there any "send mail" form there?...

05-02-2006, 12:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
asen Noogle Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gmail, some bulgarian servers and SPAM Hi! I use Win XP; Thunderbirth (last version) and Gmail for my POP3 mail. I just noticed that when I send some messages from my other POP3 accounts ( http://www.spnet.net and www.pillax.com) to some other Gmail address Google Mail server sends them to the SPAM folder. This is weird! Could anybody please advise me what could be the reason and how to solve this? Thanks!

05-02-2006, 01:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
mondine Google Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC. Posts: 4,002 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I can only assume that the Google mail filters have seen a lot of spam from those servers, and have 'flagged' everything originating from them. I don't know if there's a lot you can do about that. In the case of people with whom you regularly correspond, you can advise them of the situation, so that they can 'train' their own filter, (look for the message, and mark it as "not spam"), but I can't think of anything else. At least Gmail gives that opportunity. Even though my ISP (Shaw Cablesystems) is one of the largest providers in Canada, it's been blacklisted in a number of places (often due to malicious use of unsecured servers). There are some friends of mine that I can't contact using that account at all, as mail is routinely bounced. __________________

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asen Noogle Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SPAM received by a POP3 client? Is that also possible to somehow set Thunderbird or Outlook Express to receive the mai from the Gmail's SPAM folder?br br Sounds crazy but that's an option too, isn't it?br

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