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Old 05-30-2006, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Aiyah, Google pop-up blocker stops new windows ...

Hello to all, I am new here and found this site because of an issue i have discovered with the Google toolbar pop-up blocker.
I HOPE that i have placed this in the appropriate area.
I am lost, i cannot figure this out. I have posted at webmaster forum, sent emails to Google(no response) and asked several other places where i thought i would get an answer, no luck.

I recently found something strange happening...
I visited one of my sites to verify that a link i had added worked correctly.
( the site is irrelevant at this point because now i have found that it does this on other sites besides mine as well)
From the main page i clicked on the "Resources (2)" text link and i heard a "click" and see that the pop-up blocker on my Google toolbar has stopped my link page from opening(in a new window).
So i check every link on the page...they all get blocked regardless of where they go, to internal pages or to outside sites.
This is happening on all my pages with links that are set to "open in new window"

Now, what is weird is that this doesn't happen ALL the time.
If i navigate to my page through my favorites( I.E 6) this blocking happens almost all the time, but if i navigate to the page from a link(like from a sig ) the links work.
I also have several other similar pages where all links open in a new window and they work fine.
Occasionally the links work when i visit directly.

If i navigate to the page via favorites, the links are blocked. If i i go "back" to a previous page and the "forward" to my page the links load the pages correctly.
I have uninstalled Google toolbar ran a suite of spyware/adware programs...spybot adaware and asquared, took out all instances then restarted and reinstalled the tool bar.
My first visit to the page via favorites and the links worked, after that they will not.Unless i navigate to the page via another method other than favorites).
This is bizarre.

Another clue...
When i arrive at my page through favorites the address bar shows "http://www.webpage dot com" and the links are blocked.
If i manually take out the "www." leaving "http://webpage dot com" and hit "go" the page reloads and the links are not blocked.
The if i hit the back button and go back to the original "http://www. web page dot com" the links are not blocked.

A summary:
Right now when i visit my own site i notice that when i click on one of these links to see a different page, the Google toolbar pop-up blocker STOPS that page from opening.
All the links are set to open in a new window so as if a visitor closes that particular page the main page is still present to navigate from again if they wish.
My site does not contain any pop-ups...Google toolbar is identifying new windows that are REQUESTED by the visitor as pop-ups and stops them from loading.
This completely disables any navigation to any other pages within my site( or away from it for that matter).
I have found that this behavior is exhibited by the toolbar on OTHER pages as well as mine and i am wondering if this is some sort of bug in the toolbar.
Again, what is really strange is the fact that if i navigate into my page or any other by typing in the url or following a link the page loads work fine. If i enter the page through a saved link in my "favorites" the toolbar stops the new windows.
THEN, if i "back" out of the page, then "forward" back in the page loads work.
This happens every time.
I am concerned that visitors who utilize my site and the Google toolbar my get discouraged by the lack of navigation because page loads are stopped.
Thank you very much
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To open a Window that is blocked by Google Toolbar, you hold down Ctrl then click.
Quite simple.
You could:
a) Tell your visitors this, so that they know; or
b) Let links open in the same window. If the visitor wanted to open links in a new window then they would choose to.
i.e. Right click >> open link in new window.
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Andrew's right. Google Toolbar stops you from opening new windows. This happened to me once as well, on JK Rowling's site (www.jkrowling.com).
To stop this, you could also click on the pop-up blocker in the toolbar once. This way, none of the pop-ups on that site will be blocked.
But the best way is to let your pages open in the same window, and then provide a link to the previous page.
Hope I was of help.
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I appreciate what youboth have said, i am still baffled that this happens because "new windows" are so prevelant on pages across the web.
I cant even find and analogy that makes less sense at the moment.
Secondly no one has yet to even attempt to explain why the tool doesnt block ifvisitors "back" out of the page and "forward" back in.
It doesnt make sense, if the pop-up blocker is suppossed to block "new windows" , then why doesnt it do it in the "back" "forward" circumstance?



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It doesnt make sense, if the pop-up blocker is suppossed to block "new windows" , then why doesnt it do it in the "back" "forward" circumstance?
Because, in that case, you are not opening a 'new' window, but reloading one that is already in the browser cache.
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Ok, THAT makes sense.
I STILL do not get why the tool blocks a requested page that opens in a new window.
Operative word being REQUESTED, some one wants that page to load if they click on the link, why does it block it?
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I've never really understood that till now. Its the way Google's made it. But it is rather funny. And as far as I've seen, all pop-up blockers act that way. You just have to click on the one on the Google Toolbar to deactivate it for that website, though, so I guess its not much trouble.
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Popups or frames?

PI am also concerned (and confused) about GOOGLE's popup restrictions. Am about to redesign an older site that has lots of links to other people's websites and uses frames as well as popups. (www.rootsandroutes.net) I also plan to add GOOGLE ads tomany pages.

On some of our older pages, external links just open within the frame. Since I understand it's not proper to have somebody else's site open within your site's frame, I have been usingjava-controlled popups on our newer pages and had planned to convert allexternal links to popups when we update the older files. PMy question is - given the issues with popups and GOOGLE ads am I better off keeping the frames and getting rid of the popups? Are there also issues with frames? Are there newer ways to design popups that do not set off alarms at GOOGLE? (I don't want people constantly taken off my site.)
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