Does using i-frame or php include make a difference?

[montyauto]

does using i-frame or php include make a difference to google spiders, or other search engines?

[leftybogs]

for some seo its not advisable to use frames or any scripts embed to their page.. its hard for spiders to crawl page/s, though its crawlabe.. and there are other sites that have a fare rankings even with some of it on their page/s...

[Ka-canor]

Originally Posted by leftybogs

for some seo its not advisable to use frames or any scripts embed to their page.. its hard for spiders to crawl page/s, though its crawlabe.. and there are other sites that have a fare rankings even with some of it on their page/s...

Well said dude, I agree with you.

[emojay]

some SEO don't recommend using iframes on the site and php coded sites also because they decrease the crawling of the spiders but some do have techniques that they feel that they can get away with it. and improve the rankings of the site.

[alex-party]

PHP code is a "server side" program, when i-frame is a "browser side" element - are two different things. You can have php code that generates i-frames or you can have i-frame embedded into your document, it's totally up to you how you include it, there is NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO USER OR SPIDER. Just remember that using i-frames is not SEO friendly.

[Asidly]

Originally Posted by alex-party

Just remember that using i-frames is not SEO friendly.

Recently I stumbled upon ten SEO questions and answers on them posted at SEOMoz (I will not post a link now, because it will cause long-waited approval of the post, sorry). Here goes:

4. How do search engines treat content inside an IFrame?

The engines all interpret content in an embedded IFrame as belonging to a separate document from the page displaying the IFrame content. Thus links and content inside IFrames refer to the page they come from, rather than the page they are placed on. For SEO, one of the biggest implications of this is that links inside an IFrame are interpreted as internal links (coming from the site the IFrame content is on) rather than external links (coming from the site embedding the IFrame).

So if I understand correctly, IFrame is crawled by major SEs and is even treated as an internal link.

And then how can it be not SEO-friendly??

[alex-party]

"For SEO, one of the biggest implications of this is that links inside an IFrame are interpreted as internal links (coming from the site the IFrame content is on) rather than external links (coming from the site embedding the IFrame)."

That means if you have:

PAGE A + ( "i-frame" to PAGE B ( which has 10 links ) )

Then:

PAGE A will be crawled as PAGE A
PAGE B will be crawled as PAGE B + 10 links will belong to PAGE A which is WRONG !!!

In another words, PAGE A will collect all links from PAGE B, but not the content, which brakes the logic of the B document !!!

[Asidly]

Originally Posted by alex-party

"For SEO, one of the biggest implications of this is that links inside an IFrame are interpreted as internal links (coming from the site the IFrame content is on) rather than external links (coming from the site embedding the IFrame)."

That means if you have:

PAGE A + ( "i-frame" to PAGE B ( which has 10 links ) )

Then:

PAGE A will be crawled as PAGE A
PAGE B will be crawled as PAGE B + 10 links will belong to PAGE A which is WRONG !!!

In another words, PAGE A will collect all links from PAGE B, but not the content, which brakes the logic of the B document !!!

But this way page A receive more links... This is good for page A?

Sorry for stupid question, last night I slept only 2 hours

[alex-party]

Not at all, that's a good question.

PAGE A will receive links and they will be part of the PAGE A document, like navigation menu,
--------------------
PAGE B:
--------------------
-> link to PAGE C
-> link to PAGE D
-> link to PAGE E
--------------------
But PAGE B contents will not be part of PAGE A document.
So, if PAGE B is meant to play a role of navigation menu, IT'S FINE.
But, if PAGE B has lots of text and links and you expect PAGE A and B to be seen as single document, then you're wrong, PAGE A will keep it's own contents, when PAGE B will share links with PAGE A only.

Luck,

[Asidly]

Alex-party, thanks a lot for explanation. Now I get it.