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Old 07-18-2004, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brazil Internet Craze Angers English Speakers

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Brazil has butted heads with the United States this year on issues ranging from cotton subsidies to the war in Iraq.

But perhaps none of the battles has been so personal as the one being fought on the Internet.

Thousands of Brazilians have become devotees of Orkut, a popular new social-networking site from Web search leader Google Inc.

Orkut allows members to organize themselves into online communities of friends, and friends of friends, to discuss everything from chess to sandwiches.

But the rush of Brazilians to join Orkut and rival social networking sites has upset some online users, who complain of a proliferation of messages posted in Portuguese, Brazil's native tongue.

Some users have even started communities specifically for people to air their gripes on this issue.

The United States has at least 153 million Internet users, compared with Brazil's 20 million. Still, Orkut said Brazilians dominated its membership roster in June, outnumbering Americans for the first time.

The site says it has more than 769,000 members, making it one of the largest and most popular of its type on the Internet. About 23.5 percent of the users are from the United States, while another 41.2 percent are Brazilians.

Iranians are a distant third place at about 6 percent.

SELECTIVE MEMBERSHIP

Orkut, named after Google software engineer Orkut Buyukkokten, made its debut in January and is still in the testing stages. Part of its allure is its exclusivity -- one can only join at the invitation of another member.
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The exclusivity seems to pay off!
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Old 07-18-2004, 10:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How very ecocentric...
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Re: Brazil Internet Craze Angers English Speakers

The inital article was truncated. I post the end of it.
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"Orkut maps one's social prestige, and Brazilians are by nature gregarious," said Beth Saad, a professor at the University of Sao Paulo's School of Communications and Arts.

Although more than one-fourth of Brazilians live in poverty, those who can afford Internet access have become avid Web surfers.

In terms of time spent on the Internet, Brazilians edged out the United States in May for the second month in a row, according to Ibope/NetRatings. The market researcher estimates that Internet use for Brazilians averaged 13 hours and 51 minutes in May, eight minutes more than for Americans.

The number of Brazilian visitors to community sites and online diaries rose 14.6 percent to 3.5 million in May from January, Ibope/NetRatings said.

Tammy Soldaat, a Canadian, got a sample of Brazilian wrath recently when she posted a message asking whether her community site on body piercing should be exclusive to people who speak English.

Brazilian Orkut users quickly labelled her a "nazi" and "xenophobe."

"After that I understood why everyone is complaining about these people, why they're being called the 'plague of Orkut,'" she said in a site called "Crazy Brazilian Invasion."

John Gibbs of Mountain View, California, has founded a community called "So many Brazilians on Orkut."

"When the average Orkut user goes to look at community listings to see what's out there, he'll see a list populated with pretty much all Portuguese communities," Gibbs said. "This is highly frustrating since Orkut is not a Brazilian service."

But Mateus Reis, a publicist who lives in Sao Paulo, said users should be free to write what they want, in the language of their choosing.

"Since we can invite anyone we want at Orkut, and my friends are Brazilians, it doesn't make sense talking to them in English," Reis said in Portuguese. "I use the language I know."

His compatriot Pablo Miyazawa has a more moderate view.

"Brazilians have the right to create anything they want in any language they want," Miyazawa said. "The problem is to invade forums with specific languages and write in Portuguese. Brazilians are still learning how to behave in the Net."

AN INTERNET FORCE

The Brazilians' ardour for the Internet extends to other community-based sites, and Web entrepreneurs are catching on to the potential business opportunities.

Lisa Kopp, spokeswoman for Orkut's competitor Friendster (http://www.friendster.com), said Brazilians are "an important group, with millions" of participants among its 7 million users.

Meanwhile, Brazilians account for nearly 211,000 of the 453,600 users of Fotolog (http://www.fotolog.net), which allows people to post a visual diary of their lives.

The site is negotiating with Internet providers in Brazil to offer a Portuguese-language version, said Adam Seifer, who founded Fotolog.

But Saad, the communications professor at University of Sao Paulo, said some of Brazil's exuberance about Orkut -- and the resulting clash of cultures -- is just another fad.

"I think what will happen is what occurred when the Web arrived in Brazil," she said. "There was a huge boom of people creating sites and now the number of active sites being used by Brazilians is a lot smaller than those registered."
By the way, Fri 30 at 1:00 AM GMT, i.e. in 5 more hours, Brazilians will probably reach 50% of Orkut. Currently they are 49.72%. See http://www.orkut.com/MembersAll.aspx
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Interesting info! It's no surprise the dominant age group is 18-25 - in fact, I think some of the people there are actually younger than that Brazil's majority, however, does come as a surprise. How large is their internet population and why has orkut caught on so well?
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How large is their internet population[?]
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The United States has at least 153 million Internet users, compared with Brazil's 20 million. Still, Orkut said Brazilians dominated its membership roster in June, outnumbering Americans for the first time.
In this instant Brazilians are more than 50%.
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and why has orkut caught on so well?
I've read it's because of two reasons.

1) Brazilians have lots of friends.
2) The Friendster craze didn't arrive to Brazil, so they had an Orkut craze.
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All the brazilians I've spoken to on there are peaches though. All dead lovely people and everything.
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Yeah true. There is a community there about MSN and it's all in Portugese.

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Yeah true. There is a community there about MSN and it's all in Portugese.

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yeah i figured that out the hard way. i joined the group but didnt realize it wasnt in english til later. i started to figure it out when i kept getting a bunch of messages written in portugese.
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I have no problem with Brazilians being on Orkut and speaking in Portugese,because everyone in my country speaks english abroad.They put up with it, so should we.They are friendly enough,they message me all the time.Of course I don't understand the messages,but that's a different matter.

And I also have no problem with under 18's on Orkut, they aren't doing any harm.
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