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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Is Google Slipping? Reply with quote
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Getting to the top of anything is tough. Whether it’s business, sports or anything else; the race to number one is never easy. There’s typically only one thing tougher than getting to number one and that’s keeping it. Google, long recognized as the top search site, has enjoyed immense growth, popularity, and capital as a result.

But can they keep it?

Google competitors like Yahoo and Microsoft are obviously vying for Google’s spot. One thing Google has done in an effort to stay one step ahead is to pursue initiatives like Gmail and desktop search (GDS). Good ideas? Sure, but Google didn’t become the number one search engine by storing a gig of my email or sifting through the digital photos on my hard drive. After all, Yahoo and Microsoft both have search, email and desktop search too. Has Google’s focus on new services weakened their position in search?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Google is still doing alright, but in my opinion they have to focus more on their search engine and less on acquiring new services if they want to keep their nr. 1 status. Sure Google is innovating like crazy and their new services are good (most of them that is).

But at the same time their competition are innovation on their search engine while Google is not (or at least less). This might give the others an opportunity to gain in on the Search engine race.

Even though Google's search engine is IMO still the best there is, competition is getting closer to Google's quality. When Google does not pay enough attention to this, it might be so that in the long run Google looses territory.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
i think 1 thing that would get google a lot more popular is throwing out a linux OS, it would make google a lot more popular i think
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i think 1 thing that would get google a lot more popular is throwing out a linux OS, it would make google a lot more popular i think


Your post is a little bit to confusing for me, but I'm guessing your saying that google would be more popular if they released a Linux Operating System.

I wont agree on that I'm afraid but I will agree on what tokkolo said, google needs to focus on there search engine more than releasing new products.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, he meant Google should release a Linux distro. I don't agree on that. It would only increase Linux' popularity, and it would barely help Google. Google should concentrate more on what they started with, search. I know a lot of new features that can be added.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
serach is what is google should be focussed in... i agree with tokkolo and darren!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
there is not much more they can do with google, except tweak, theres not many new features they can add
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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there is not much more they can do with google, except tweak, theres not many new features they can add


Could you please explain to me what you are saying? I don't totally understand your post. Your talking about features, do you mean the features of the search engine or new Google features (new products)?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think he means search features... Maybe some people think google is perfect 'cause they find anything in the internet but I've seen Google's dark side too...

Haven't you searched for something and did not find it? Well is not that it isn't there is just that google didn't saw it, google has much to improve...

You'll maybe ask me WHAT ELSE CAN GOOGLE IMPROVE? well...

Getting a site to be indexed in google shouldn't be the headcache of a SEO team, is The SE it self that must improve the system in order to list the smallest site...

Searching on google is more than typing keywords, you have to know HOW TO SEARCH and how to dismiss useless results, this is another problem the SE should be more easy for (forgive me if somebody feels insulted) "stupid" users...

Still Google is the Best in SE, but that doesn't mean it is perfect and that there is no room for improvement...


PS: Google did make a GREAT work changing the Size of the database ID variables that stucked them in 4million sites for a while, they changed the 32-bit ID to a larger one, that is a great job for such a big database... So don't say google is not paying attention to it's SE...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Google should make gmail available to everyone and not just invites, then add a link on the search engine to gmail. I give my gmail invites out straight away, I know people who keep them and don't share. It should be available to everyone.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not clear whether they will ever make it public or not, but if they do, things will get out of hand...They offer 1000 MB/1 GB of space for their e-mail, and there already are over 250000 users...If they make it public, sign-ups will be very frequent and gmail will be abused by spammers like hotmail, yahoo and others. Besides, think about it, Google doesn't have infinite disk space, if they make Gmail public, they'll run out of their space pretty quickly. I don't think Google should make Gmail public, and in my opinion, any sensible person should agree, unless they want Gmail's service to stop. I just hope Google can handle the large amount of users even with their invite system...
I also think everyone should be able to get Gmail, and they can. Just because one person won't give them invites doesn't mean others won't. If people look around, and use the Google Search Engine, they actually can find many places where people would be more than willing to invite them. Plus, gmail is frequently giving out invites, so no need to worry about people running out of them. Sure there was a shortage in August, but it wasn't intentional(I emailed support@gmail.com and asked what was going on with the lack of invites) and I doubt it will ever happen again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Google is certainly not slipping. Exclamation with the release of these new services, they are simply trying to get more ppl to use google over their rivals. yes they r trying to develop these services but i have found that the original search engine is still the best available and has not lost any effectivness
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I dont think that Google is slipping at all, it is still, by far, the best search engine I have ever used. As far as making gmail public, god, I hope they don't!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
is gmail still in so called beta?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Stuff2Do wrote:
is gmail still in so called beta?

Use common sense. When you log in to your Gmail inbox what does the Gmail logo say?
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