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This one is going to be expensive for Google!
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A company that holds patents on the way voice over IP (VoIP) calls are placed said on Friday that it was suing Google over its use of certain technologies within the Google Talk instant message application.
New York-based Rates Technology Inc. has no products. However, it is one of several patent companies now in existence whose entire business is based on collecting royalties from firms that use technologies covered by patents they own.
The company estimates that damages resulting from the case could reach $5 billion based on estimates of a four-year-long fight to win concessions from Google.
RTI president Jerry Weinberger claims that the company does not normally sue other businesses in order to get them to pay up for their patents. Instead, it usually asks for a one-time $5 million fee to cover licensing.
But in the case of Google, "every once in a while we run into utter arrogance," Weinberger says.
The claim of not suing companies to force payment is not completely true, however; the company has a past of only going after larger corporations using its patents.
Mitel Networks is involved in a $945 million suit with RTI, and Alcatel has been sued for $1.155 billion. Hello Direct, GN Netcom and GN have also been sued, but they settled with RTI privately. Also being sued are Cablevision and Vonage, however details of those suits were not available.
Altogether, 25 companies have been sued over the past 15 years, although RTI has successfully negotiated deals with over 700 others. In all, the company has netted billions through licensing alone, and billions more through litigation.
Some of these companies include Yahoo, Microsoft and Verizon, and negotiations are underway with AOL and eBay over its Skype offering.
Mark Evans, a Canadian blogger and writer for the Canadian National Post, took RTI to task earlier this week in his Web log.
"The key issue is whether these broad patents will deter innovation if patent 'trolls' can easily solicit licensing fees out of companies developing new technology," he said, calling for a review into the broad patents that the USPTO awards inventors. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lol, five million wouldn't be as news worthy, would it?
I actually thought it was a misprint the first time reading through the article.
Arrogance: When five million, turns into 5 billion! or | Quote: | | Overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Just move your IT companies & infrastructure out of US and be done with it   |
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That was such a 'Zima' reply. Oh, hello Zima!  For some reason your post sounds remarkably like "kill'em all and let you know who sort it out". You just love picking on me..don't you.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| zima wrote: | | Just move your IT companies & infrastructure out of US and be done with it |
Both the companies in the article, RTI and Google are U.S companies, Zima. Can't really follow your advice in this case. No, she's not picking on you alone, Rod.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| geekerati wrote: | | That was such a 'Zima' reply. Oh, hello Zima! For some reason your post sounds remarkably like "kill'em all and let you know who sort it out". You just love picking on me..don't you. |
I suggest leraning one basic rule in forum discussions - if somebody didn't quote your message, think hard (reeaaly hard ) if it was directed specifically at you... |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| kcmandava wrote: | | zima wrote: | | Just move your IT companies & infrastructure out of US and be done with it |
Both the companies in the article, RTI and Google are U.S companies, Zima. Can't really follow your advice in this case. No, she's not picking on you alone, Rod. |
You really think goods/people/money/companies are attached to one and only place on this planet? Heck, a lot of IT companies are oousourcing their reserch centers already, and so on...who knows how this trend will look like if US will be still the only place in the world with idiotic patent laws...
And as for your last sentence (and the one from geekerati's post) - don't ellude yourself thinking that I "pick" here at anyone. Actually, I rarely look at who posted something. The only thing which means to me is WHAT was posted, not who did it. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and one more thing, both of you (and I guess some others...). I suspect you were able to notice that my nick isn't "Zima", so perhaps you could show some respect and use my real nick when we're talking? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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zima, don't triple post! There's an edit button right on the top right of your post if you need it!
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Why are they sueing when Google Talk is only in beta...Google haven't even finished it and another company's already sueing it for 5 [i]billion[/] dollars  What is the world coming to?
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Thanks for the clarification, Zima. Did you mean I should say zima and not 'Zima' ?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| zima wrote: | | Oh, and one more thing, both of you (and I guess some others...). I suspect you were able to notice that my nick isn't "Zima", so perhaps you could show some respect and use my real nick when we're talking? |
zima, I was just giving you a hard time is all. Bonding you know, attempting to strip the layers away so that we can communicate and enjoy talking with each other more. I realised you were laughing in your post after the patented eye-roll.  If I didn't enjoy your responses and personality I would ignore you. You're intelligent and witty, with a candid no nonsense approach to replying, and never for a moment was my intension to show you a lack of respect. Please accept my apologies. I'm sorry for the hasty oversight. 
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