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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: Oil Depleted by 2008 |
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| Quote: | Oil Is So, Well; 20th Century!
Note: This article is based towards americans as you can see, but it's a worldwide issue.
When faced with a problem in the old days, creative inventors in the United States used to find a brand-new way to work around it. Remember back in the late 18th Century, when trains ran by the heat of coal? Back then, there was a guy on each train, whose sole job was to keep the coal fires burning red-hot. This was inefficient, however; as the coal mining technology extant at that time simply could not keep up with the demand. Sometimes trains got stuck when the coal fires blew out. Then, the diesel engine was invented, and train tracks were suddenly cris-crossing the country. The Industrial Revolution began with a vengeance. Diesel was replaced with cleaner forms of gas in the late 20th Century. We use gas and oil for practically everything, and there is no alternative at this time. The entire economic structure of all Western countries is based on oil and gas. What would happen, then, if we ran out?
Lots of experts think this is what is happening, and soon. If this is true, the entire industrialized world is about to encounter its most massive problem in the history of the globe.
Peak Oil, the point in time after which oil production will fail to meet worldwide demand, is expected to occur in 2008 (the expected date of Peak Oil was originally projected to occur in 2010. The rapid advances of China as a new industrialized nation have moved the fateful date closer.) Complete oil depletion is expected to occur within twenty years thereafter. Natural gas is expected to hit its peak within this time period, if the Gas Peak has not already begun. How will modern man survive without oil and gas? Are we beginning to see global battles for remaining oil? If we must bear with less oil and gas, do we face an economic collapse worse than the Great Depression, automobile and airplane travel too expensive for anyone (but the very wealthy), poor farm crop yields without petrochemical fertilizers, human overpopulation by the billions, mass famine and scarcity of clean water, and polluted oceans without fish?
Currently, there is no viable substitute for oil. Neither coal, solar cells nor uranium can be used to operate cars or airplanes. Why, then, is the study of alternative energy on the back burner of the Bush Administration? (And, why is war on the front burner?) Are we simply not able to fathom that we must think about the future, rather than languish in our reliance on past practices?
Obtaining access to Iraqi oil is only a temporary fix for the United States: their oil is included in current Peak Oil models. If a solution is not found soon, only the third world (upon whom we heap tremendous disrespect) will know how to survive the crisis! We may, in our lifetimes, discover what it was that caused the advanced culture and society of the Mayan civilization to disappear from the planet. We may have a first-hand understanding of why Rome fell. Because our leaders have not learned from history, so they are doomed to repeat it.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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MOVED.
BTW, thanks for the educative article, you're doing your best as I can see  ...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| justin, all these oil business is the cration of US!! iforesee the balance of power getting altered with more oil finds!! |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| cvrk3 wrote: | | justin, all these oil business is the cration of US!! iforesee the balance of power getting altered with more oil finds!! |
Africa! 
60 billion barrels of proven oil reserves in the Gulf of Guinea.
Nigeria
Angola
Gabon
Cameroon
Equatorial Guinea
Sao Tome
We have the technology to supplement this huge thirst for oil. I hate POLITICS!!
When I worked for Halliburton, Angola was one of our bigger International accounts. They consistently ordered rotors, stators and constant velocity joint assemblies from us.
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You know what? The depletion of oil will harm Japan the most...Japan's economy will literally collapse within 5 days of oil shortage. They are very much dependant on the Middle Eastern countries due to their high demand of oil, so if the Middle east stops exporting oil to Japan...heh bye bye Squaresoft, bye bye Capcom, bye bye SNK...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Iran/Iraq(region) is sitting on 250 billion barrels of oil! The Japanese are in the forefront of hybrid and electric cars, don't worry Eric, everything is fine. Hey, many of the really good gaming companies are in Canada, aren't they?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| america are going to steal al iraqs oil, heh |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| geekerati wrote: | | Iran/Iraq(region) is sitting on 250 billion barrels of oil! The Japanese are in the forefront of hybrid and electric cars, don't worry Eric, everything is fine. Hey, many of the really good gaming companies are in Canada, aren't they? |
The Japanese have more uses for oil other than in cars  ...The Japanese companies waste a lot, they could've saved more oil had they adopted alternate technologies.
There are some good game companies here like Rockstar North, they developed the last three great GTAs, but the Japanese company 'Squaresoft' is considered the best game developer due to their masterpiece of a Role Playing Game, Final Fantasy VII, followed by their other masterpiece Chrono Trigger. These were both voted as the best games of all time on GameFAQs.com, the most popular game-related information site, and you can't go wrong with their info. I like GTA, but Final Fantasy...well the 7th game in the series was so...I don't know...awesome...so was Chrono Trigger...
Furthermore, yeah I sort of agree with Stuff2do, Bush's obvious intention was to install US oil extracting facilities in Iraq, with which he plans to sap and leech Iraq's oil...
Heh, nothing to do now I guess, until 2008, none of us are safe. Bush is still president thanks to the misguided dudes in the US of A! XD...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Eric Straven wrote: | | geekerati wrote: | | Iran/Iraq(region) is sitting on 250 billion barrels of oil! The Japanese are in the forefront of hybrid and electric cars, don't worry Eric, everything is fine. Hey, many of the really good gaming companies are in Canada, aren't they? |
The Japanese have more uses for oil other than in cars ...The Japanese companies waste a lot, they could've saved more oil had they adopted alternate technologies.
There are some good game companies here like Rockstar North, they developed the last three great GTAs, but the Japanese company 'Squaresoft' is considered the best game developer due to their masterpiece of a Role Playing Game, Final Fantasy VII, followed by their other masterpiece Chrono Trigger. These were both voted as the best games of all time on GameFAQs.com, the most popular game-related information site, and you can't go wrong with their info. I like GTA, but Final Fantasy...well the 7th game in the series was so...I don't know...awesome...so was Chrono Trigger...
Furthermore, yeah I sort of agree with Stuff2do, Bush's obvious intention was to install US oil extracting facilities in Iraq, with which he plans to sap and leech Iraq's oil...
Heh, nothing to do now I guess, until 2008, none of us are safe. Bush is still president thanks to the misguided dudes in the US of A! XD... |
There is no misguidance here. I'm not saying Bush is a great president, but I'd prefer him over any of the other candidates any day. Especially that Kerry, he would have invaded Iraq one day and decide to withdraw the next, then repeat, etc..(FLIP-FLOPPER). Enough of the politics though...Also, if bush's intention was to extract oil from Iraq, then by all means why hasn't he. I don't see anything stopping him...The UN but when has that ever stopped anyone from getting something they wanted. |
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hello folks!!
US, if saner sense prevails, does not have to invade any country. All the oil deals are to be done in dollors!! thus even if anyone finds oil and trade the beneficiary is USD! master stroke of keeping the internatinal trade in favour of US!! thus it was stupid of US to have invaded Iraq and to get into controvarsy. all these invasions are waste of energy and diversion from the domestic problems!! have you thought of that US which permitted free movement, enterprise, and innovations? today it is more diversions and diversions... and it is natural that it losing its status as superpower!! |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| cvrk3 wrote: | hello folks!!
US, if saner sense prevails, does not have to invade any country. All the oil deals are to be done in dollors!! thus even if anyone finds oil and trade the beneficiary is USD! master stroke of keeping the internatinal trade in favour of US!! thus it was stupid of US to have invaded Iraq and to get into controvarsy. all these invasions are waste of energy and diversion from the domestic problems!! have you thought of that US which permitted free movement, enterprise, and innovations? today it is more diversions and diversions... and it is natural that it losing its status as superpower!! |
We had terrorists with nothing else in their heads then to bring the U.S. down. For trying to stop that, the U.S. of A's status is threatened? That is pure b.s. If it were to happen to England, people over there would be just as mad. It's one of them things that you must have it happen to you to understand. It doesn't matter when you're not the one facing the problem. |
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I say we just mess up the world and use all the natural resources up now... Let the kiddies deal with it when we're dead...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, no armageddon... |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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justin!
this is one of the diversions that has been made!
i do understand the gravity of the situation, when twin tower was bombed! but invading a country is not the answer? are you able to capture osama even today or even stop the killing of innnocent americans in the streets of baghdad? remember the ho chi minh days? these bush politicians are making your world miserble, bu justifying the war! |
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Bush is worse than Richard Nixon, who got America's as...err butt kicked in Vietnam. I think something with devastating results for the US will happen due to Bush by 2008...
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