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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Linguistics! Reply with quote
Linguistics is a very interesting subject matter. I was thinking if we could have an interesting discussion on linguistics here, for those who have some knowledge about linguistics. I'm no professional linguist, but I know what I'm talking about.
I know, very few people will be able to participate. Sad
But on to the discussion, I select the Altaic-Turkic family of languages to be our current topic.
The Turkic languages consist of the languages spoken in the predominantly Muslim countries of central Asia, Turkey and surrounding areas in scattered demographic condition. Some associate Finnish and Hungarian(all Uralic-Finnic languages) with this family, since they all originated in central Asia. But the biggest dispute is whether or not Japanese and Korean are related to these languages. Japanese and Korean developed independantly from the other languages of central Asia, and thus the structures of the languages evolved in a sovereign way, but the baseline cognates remained intact. SIL Corporation's Ethnologue has Korean listed as being 'language isolate', and Japanese listed as being in it's own language family titled 'Japanese', but other linguists tend to disagree. They believe that the Altaic-Turkic primarily has five branches:
1. Turkic
2. Mongolian
3. Japonic
4. Korean
5. Tungusic(Manchu belongs to this branch)
Many linguists don't consider the Japanese and Korean to be related to any of the other languages and neither to eachother, so they exclude any trace of relation to one another from linguistic classifications. The mongoloid inhabitants of present day Korea and Japan indigenously originated in central Asia. The aboriginal inhabitants of Japan were the caucasoid Ainu who were later subverted by settlers from mainland Asia. Japanese and Korean both have similarities, so they should be grouped in atleast a "Koreo-Japonic" language. As for incorporation into the Altaic language family, research has rendered it obvious now that the Japanese language was derived from an early stage of eastern Altaic, so Korean being related is inevitable. Yet many people are still not convinced. On the other hand, many people group the Uralic-Finnic languages with the Altaic languages as one magnified 'Uralo-Altaic' super-family.
Post anything you can to contribute to or discuss the matter here, and also post links to provide evidence if it may be needed or called for.
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tch... no replies.
Could someone atleast please give me a link to a forum centred around these discussions?
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