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| Randy Johnston wrote: | If the post you make is not directly related to the subject of the topic, then it will be deleted. Eric - you shouldn't be here any more anyway. Moderators have the right to enforce the rules - that's their job. And if you're posting inappropriate content with no relation to the subject of the topic, it will be deleted.
And if you hate this site and its people so much - why are you here? |
Ok Randy, Im not sure what you're enforcing, but just because a topic is sometimes slightly offtopic doesn't mean you have to delete it. Often people go off on meaningfull tangents. A forum with no posts that don't always in every sense relate to the topic would be boring. I agree that Eric spams sometimes, but all his posts don't have to be deleted just because you have some personal vendetta against him.
Also I just want to be a part of this thread
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the input, Keet. I agree that a little off topic is okay. In fact, even moderators, including me are known to do that. Please remember that Eric is breaking a rule by having more than one account registered and evading his ban, giving probable cause for me to go through and delete every one of his posts, which I am giving him the chance to re-earn his reputation as a valuable member. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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LOLZ ROFLMAO.
Now damn, that was a really funny post, especially the last sentence. I hope Elliot makes a global moderator or an administrator so that you can delete all of posts.
Anyways, just want to share that if GC had more active members, we could have 5 pages of drama(tic flame wars) already on this topic.
Ah, well.
Randy is ALWAYS right. 
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I don't think you should be the one who decides whether my post is spam or not Randy, because your judgement is off a bit.
Similarly, I'd like you to notice the fact that you could have deleted several other posts under the grounds that they were spam. You did not. You deleted Eric's posts because you are biased towards him. When you make a rule such as this, it usually applies to everyone, not just Eric. Just because Eric's been banned 5 times does not give you the right to do this - he's still a member here. Just because his posts are probable to have spam involved does not mean you can delete them regardless of what they say or mean. Like I said before, if you want to get out of this without being biased, you've got several posts to catch up on.
Now don't call my replies unintelligent. If you knew anything about forums-which I thought you did-you would know that this kind of drama crap happens all the time. It even happens in real life, whaddyaknow? |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
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"whaddyaknow?"
"I don't think you should be the one who decides whether my post is spam or not Randy, because your judgement is off a bit. "
My judgement is off a bit? Maybe you're suggesting that Intelliot is an idiot? Intelliot has selected the moderators here at GC based on the traits and characteristics needed for a moderator. If you're suggesting that my moderation judgement is off a bit, I'd like to remind you are also saying that Intelliot's decisions and judgements are the same.
"Similarly, I'd like you to notice the fact that you could have deleted several other posts under the grounds that they were spam. You did not."
If you have any suggestions or notice and posts that do not belong, feel free to PM a moderator of the forum it is in notifying them of the "spam" and one of us will take care of it right away.
"You deleted Eric's posts because you are biased towards him. When you make a rule such as this, it usually applies to everyone, not just Eric. Just because Eric's been banned 5 times does not give you the right to do this - he's still a member here."
Incorrect. I actually do have the right to delete Eric's posts and judge them more harshly. He's a banned member and breaking GC rules just by being here - by having more than one account registered and evading his ban. It's just a matter of time before he is banned again. Hopefully he will make the right decision: either by improving his attitude towards the forum and posting with good quality, or leaving permanently.
Eric: It looks like this isn't the only forum you're not welcome at.
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Randy Johnston wrote: | "whaddyaknow?"
"I don't think you should be the one who decides whether my post is spam or not Randy, because your judgement is off a bit. "
My judgement is off a bit? Maybe you're suggesting that Intelliot is an idiot? Intelliot has selected the moderators here at GC based on the traits and characteristics needed for a moderator. If you're suggesting that my moderation judgement is off a bit, I'd like to remind you are also saying that Intelliot's decisions and judgements are the same.
"Similarly, I'd like you to notice the fact that you could have deleted several other posts under the grounds that they were spam. You did not."
If you have any suggestions or notice and posts that do not belong, feel free to PM a moderator of the forum it is in notifying them of the "spam" and one of us will take care of it right away.
"You deleted Eric's posts because you are biased towards him. When you make a rule such as this, it usually applies to everyone, not just Eric. Just because Eric's been banned 5 times does not give you the right to do this - he's still a member here."
Incorrect. I actually do have the right to delete Eric's posts and judge them more harshly. He's a banned member and breaking GC rules just by being here - by having more than one account registered and evading his ban. It's just a matter of time before he is banned again. Hopefully he will make the right decision: either by improving his attitude towards the forum and posting with good quality, or leaving permanently. |
Woo, Mr. Wonder Moderator is dancing again!
My respect for you tripled with that post of your's!
Though, three times zero is still zero.
| Quote: | | My judgement is off a bit? Maybe you're suggesting that Intelliot is an idiot? Intelliot has selected the moderators here at GC based on the traits and characteristics needed for a moderator. If you're suggesting that my moderation judgement is off a bit, I'd like to remind you are also saying that Intelliot's decisions and judgements are the same. |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Eric,
You are the one who was recommending randy for the supermoderators post. When intelliot was unrelenting, the effects were known to everyone who is in this community. Your conclusion on intelliot, based on his selecting ability, if accepted, logically what we should conclude about you, taking up the case of randy to be the supermoderator?
Randy, the thread you posted about eric, has already been released in this forum by GK.
Justin, i find that you are pleading the case of eric, on the basis of generality without looking into the background of eric. I have made my opinions about eric, elsewhere in the forum, and under the sixth name, what appears his major contribution is taking up the fight with moderator. While i respect your opinion on the issue, on your supporting arguments in favour of eric, only the following story comes to my mind:
In a country, there was a law that orphans are to be treated mildly on their convictions. What as a judge you will pronounce, when you hear a case of a person, who is accused of killing is mother and father, pleading with you to treat him leniently, because he is an orphan now !
Justin , i beleive the spirit of the community, lies in the behaviour of its members. i now have my strong reservation about the attitude and intention of eric. |
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Ericsson
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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What does that have to do with this? Besides, that's my "fake account" I created to annoy users, my real account is safe and sound, so I don't get what you are trying to establish with that link.
I don't know if Geekerati posted that link, but if he did, it doesn't really matter. I suppose he is "Master Eric" as well. No one really cared. Only a few moderators on that site knew what my real account was, so they didn't unleash an IP ban.
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For anyone that is interested in knowing, it was a ploy set up by me and a certain moderator(who is a good friend of mine) to ban another user named 'Freelancer'. I didn't break any rules, so there was no reason for me being banned but they squeezed in a rule to be able to ban the other guy; I happily complied because I wanted him banned as well. Why did we want him banned? It's a long story, but in short, he was the most hated member on the boards and he celebrated and made fun of a member on his death memorial thread. The departed member in question was Clint Gorman.
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| cvrk3 wrote: | Eric,
You are the one who was recommending randy for the supermoderators post. When intelliot was unrelenting, the effects were known to everyone who is in this community. Your conclusion on intelliot, based on his selecting ability, if accepted, logically what we should conclude about you, taking up the case of randy to be the supermoderator?
Randy, the thread you posted about eric, has already been released in this forum by GK.
Justin, i find that you are pleading the case of eric, on the basis of generality without looking into the background of eric. I have made my opinions about eric, elsewhere in the forum, and under the sixth name, what appears his major contribution is taking up the fight with moderator. While i respect your opinion on the issue, on your supporting arguments in favour of eric, only the following story comes to my mind:
In a country, there was a law that orphans are to be treated mildly on their convictions. What as a judge you will pronounce, when you hear a case of a person, who is accused of killing is mother and father, pleading with you to treat him leniently, because he is an orphan now !
Justin , i beleive the spirit of the community, lies in the behaviour of its members. i now have my strong reservation about the attitude and intention of eric. |
Thanks for the post, cvrk.
I agree with you in all aspects of your post and realize that it was a mistake on my part for not being able to see Randy's true colours from the start. I will try and make amends for my offensive misbehaviour. I assure you that I'll stop making personal and direct individual attacks. Spamming is getting boring for me, there are many forums where spamming is allowed so I'll stop making useless posts here.
A moderator(tokkolo or darrenstraight) may lock this thread if he/she chooses to, as this is getting nowhere at all.
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Eric,
It is really heartening to have your assurance. Certainly I am looking forward to your good contribution to this forum. At the same time, permit me to have some reservations on your assurance atleast for the time being,till I am convinced. Hope you will also not mind my frank comments( above), as i always belive in speaking my mind straight. Once again thanks for the understanding and hope your relation with the community, will go stronger and you will continue to be popular with your humor and knowledge!! all the best!! |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I suppose I was pleading the case of Eric. As of late, however, his posts have been worse then they were. However I wasn't referring to the posts he now makes, or the way he acts now. I was referring to the instance when his posts were deleted before, wrongly in my opinion.
Randy, are you saying that the reason you don't delete all spam posts is because you do not see them?
By me saying your judgement is off, has nothing to do with Intelliot. Example: Americans vote George Bush in office, Dubbya nukes middle east altogether. Did the Americans know for certain he was going to do that? You can only tell so much by observing someone, the rest is to be left up to the person theirself.
I'd like to end this debate as well. It seems as though you (Randy) have answered most of my arguments, so I cannot go on any longer. I want to say more, but I am at a lack of words. I can't figure out what I want to say, and it's jumbled in my head. I'll accept a loss at this, I just do not want it to hurt my image at this community.
Maybe the reason I am pleading for you Eric is because I really look forward to you being a part of this community again. I just hope that what you said above will hold true.
Please lock this, I'd rather not have to look at it anymore. |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Okay. Thanks for letting me know how you feel, Justin. And yes, if I see a spam post, I delete it. Please remember that I have a life outside of GC and can't dedicate every hour of my life to cleaning up GC. Also please remember that I do my best to make decisions that I believe will most benefit the community in the long run. If you see a decision that you don't necessarily agree with by me or any other moderator, please send them a PM letting them know. If you'd like to continue the discussion, feel free to send me a PM. |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Ok Randy, will do. I'm glad we could end this absurd argument  Next time, I'll just PM you with my problems if there are any. |
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