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intelliot
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 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject: GoogleGuy: Hyphen Better than Underscore in URLs |
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| Quote: | Lately, I've been pretty quiet, but at some point I'll hit the Google blog again to hold forth on, say, which is better in a url: hyphen or underscore.
Later -- but hopefully, soon,
GoogleGuy
P.S. Usually, it's a hyphen.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for introducing the blog- i have lareaady book marked it.
look at this place if you want to see the longest polyandrome- details in the above blog. i have only started reading this blog- appears that it will be interesting.http://www.norvig.com/pal2txt.html |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:13 am Post subject: |
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One more intersting note came to my notice, when i started reading the archive;
Jonathan Rosenberg prvides a GUIDELINE on tackling "the problem of Internet software that installs itself without telling you" | Quote: | INSTALLATION
We believe software should not trick you into installing it. It should be clear to you when you are installing or enabling software on your computer and you should have the ability to say no. An application shouldn't install itself onto your computer secretly or by hiding within another program you're installing or updating. You should be conspicuously notified of the functions of all the applications in a bundle.
UPFRONT DISCLOSURE
When an application is installed or enabled, it should inform you of its principal and significant functions. And if the application makes money by showing you advertising, it should clearly and conspicuously explain this. This information should be presented in a way that a typical user will see and understand -- not buried in small print that requires you to scroll. For example, if the application is paid for by serving pop-up ads or sending your personal data to a third party, that should be made clear to you.
SIMPLE REMOVAL
It should be easy for you to figure out how to disable or delete an application. The process should try to remove sufficient components to disable all functions of the application, visible or not, without messing up your computer. Once an application is disabled or deleted, it should not remain active or be automatically enabled later by itself or another application.
CLEAR BEHAVIOR
Applications that affect or change your user experience should make clear they are the reason for those changes. For example, if an application opens a window, that window should identify the application responsible for it. Applications should not intentionally obscure themselves under multiple or confusing names. You should be given means to control the application in a straightforward manner, such as by clicking on visible elements generated by the application. If an application shows you ads, it should clearly mark them as advertising and inform you that they originate from that application. If an application makes a change designed to affect the user experience of other applications (such as setting your home page) then those changes should be made clear to you.
SNOOPING
If an application collects or transmits your personal information such as your address, you should know. We believe you should be asked explicitly for your permission in a manner that is obvious and clearly states what information will be collected or transmitted. For more detail, it should be easy to find a privacy policy that discloses how the information will be used and whether it will be shared with third parties.
KEEPING GOOD COMPANY
Application providers should not allow their products to be bundled with applications that do not meet these guidelines.
Many internet users find that over time their computers become loaded with unwanted software - be it adware, spyware or just plain junk. This is because a few applications they installed came bundled with junk, and that junk generated more junk piled higher and deeper. We believe any situation where multiple applications are being installed should be made very clear to users, so that if you were to ask them several months later - "What's this?" - most will know where it came from and why it is there.
Usually there are complex business relationships among the companies participating in a bundle. This can result in well-intentioned companies benefiting from the distribution or revenue generated by software that does not benefit you. Getting paid to distribute, or paying money to be distributed with undesirable software enables more undesirable software. Responsible software makers and advertisers can work to prevent such distribution by avoiding these types of business relationships, even if they are through intermediaries.
We are alarmed by the size of this problem, which we estimate to be causing hundreds of millions of dollars to be changing hands annually. Because of this magnitude and user impact, strong action by the industry is imperative.
We believe that it is in our users' and the industry's interest to work to eliminate this problem. For this reason, we will strive to distribute our software only in bundles where all applications meet the above guidelines, and we think users will benefit if others in our industry do the same.
Note: If you think you have a deceptive application on your computer, or just want to check to be certain, there are a number of programs that can help you. Spybot Search and Destroy, LavaSoft's Ad-aware, and CWShredder are commonly used. These programs can remove the most common malicious applications, though our users report that you may need to try more than one and having the latest versions is important. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the Google Blog a few weeks back, then i seen intelliot post it on here.
I think its pretty cool to look at. About the dashes and underscores.
Always good to read if ur bored or something.
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tntcheats
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm this is an issue I've wondered about for a while.
I've known about that site for about 4 months.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure, a hyphen is better than an underscore....
Keep in mind - that this could all change tommorrow.... But I'm pretty sure the hyphen seperates words better...
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Uhhhh GoogleGuy already said it's better....
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Eric
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Googly Goo! I don't think underscores work either
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| Quote: | Friday, September 03, 2004
Will Code For Plane Ticket?
Do you like programming challenges? Do you like competition? Do you like money? If you can answer yes to at least two of those three questions, then Code Jam, Google's annual celebration of the art of computer science, is for you. Every autumn, thousands of programmers sign up to tackle the most ego-deflating problems Google's engineers can come up with, in a race against time and their fellow coders. After several elimination rounds, the top 50 finalists get a free trip to the final round at the Googleplex here in Mountain View, where all 50 will wind up with a share of $50,000 in prize money ($10,000 to the winner, at least $250 to all 50 finalists).
So. Are you good? We mean, like, seriously good? Let's find out. Maybe you'll score some cash. Maybe you'll wind up changing the world as a Googler yourself (yes, we'll be interested in perusing code jammers' resumes). But most important, you'll have the sheer intellectual pleasure of testing your gray matter against that of the world's best programmers. Gifted geeks may take up the Code Jam '04 gauntlet here.
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sounds like fun
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hyphen sounds better when your telling someone your web addy 
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| When you do a hythen the spiders and bots think there seperate-words when you do them underscore they think its just one_word |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Besides, domain names can only contain hyphens ...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, but filenames (in URLs) can contain almost anything (such as underscores). |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hahahahaha really cool that Google blog...
Made me think in google as a person... a living caring person heheheheh
Thnx for the link intelliot...
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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You guys are crazy... the url, up to the tld has nothing to do with how the spider rates your site. Two drawbacks come to mind about using underscore versus hyphen: One is that most users will assume
it's a hyphen, since hyphenated names for URLs and for people are common, and underscores are pretty
much a "computer thing". The other probem is that when presented as a link, the link underlining
in the browser often obscures the underscore, and it can look like an underlined space instead of an
underscore. So, it's a "usability" issue as well as an SEO decision. |
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